July 22, 2009
The Senate has rejected the GOP's pro-gun measure on
concealed weapons. From AP:
Gun control proponents scored a rare victory as the Senate rejected the
carrying of concealed weapons across state lines.
The 58-39 vote Wednesday defeated a measure giving people with concealed
weapons permits the right to carry their firearms into other states that have
similar gun laws. Sixty votes were needed to approve the provision, an amendment
to a defense spending bill.
It is an unusual setback for the gun rights side, which has been able to
muster majorities of Republicans and pro-gun Democrats to move its agenda
through both the Bush and Obama administrations. Opponents say the concealed
weapon proposal would force states with tough gun laws to accept gun-carrying
visitors from states with weaker laws.
Gun rights advocates sought to show their political muscle again Wednesday
with a Senate vote giving people with concealed weapons permits in one state
permission to carry their hidden weapons into other states with similar gun
laws.
Under an agreement of Senate leaders, 60 votes were needed to pass the
measure, an amendment to a defense spending bill, and the outcome was uncertain.
But the gun rights lobby, putting together Republicans and pro-gun Democrats
from rural states, has a strong winning record in recent years.
The New York Times, in an editorial this weekend, called the bill a "radical"
one that "would nullify the laws of almost every state."
On Wednesday, the Senate is expected to vote on the latest assault on public
safety in the name of gun ownership. Introduced as an amendment to the
military's budget bill by Senator John Thune, a Republican of South Dakota, this
radical measure would nullify the laws of almost every state, subjecting police
officers to greater risk and increasing the potential for gun violence. [...]
For Alaska to permit residents who have committed repeated violent
misdemeanors or who have committed misdemeanor sex offenses against minors to
carry a concealed weapon is terrible public policy. For the Senate to extend
that permit to 47 other states would be the height of irresponsibility, as well
as a breathtaking violation of legitimate states' rights.
Backers, led by Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., say truckers and others with
concealed weapons permits should be able to protect themselves when they cross
into other states. Opponents say the measure would force states with strict
procedures for getting permits to accept permits from states with more lax
laws.
The provision, Thune said, will ensure that the nation's 5 million
concealed-carry permit holders can travel through the 48 states allowing
concealed weapons without infringements on their fundamental rights. Only
Illinois and Wisconsin have no concealed weapons laws.
But Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said the proposal would allow people from
states that give permits to people with alcohol problems, or child abuse
convictions, or which don't require any firearms training, to carry concealed
guns in states with rigorous conditions for issuing permits.
"The visitors can ignore the law of the state, the law that the elected
representatives of the people of that state have enacted," he said.
The gun proposal would make concealed weapons permits from one state valid in
other states as long as the person obeys the laws of other states, such as
weapons bans in certain localities. It does not establish national standards for
concealed weapons permits and would not allow those with permits to carry
weapons into Wisconsin and Illinois.
Gun control groups were strongly in opposition.
Concealed handgun permit holders killed at least seven police officers and 44
private citizens during a two-year period ending in April, according to a study
by the Violence Policy Center. "It is beyond irrational for Congress to vote to
expand the reach of these deadly laws," said the center's legislative director,
Kristen Rand.
Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said the bill would "incite a dangerous race to
the bottom in our nation's gun laws." He said his own state, which has strict
gun control laws, would have to accept concealed weapons permits from states
such as Arizona, which issues permits to people with drinking problems, or
Alaska, where people with violent misdemeanor convictions can get permits.
"Folks in Minot, N.D., and New York are going to have different conceptions
about what's right for their locality," said Jim Kessler, vice president for
policy at Third Way, a centrist think tank that supports gun rights. "In some
states you have to show a real need" to get a permit, he said. "In other states
you have to show that you can stand on two feet."
So far this year gun rights advocates have had the clear advantage in
Congress. They managed to attach a provision to a credit card bill signed into
law that restores the right to carry loaded firearms in national parks, and
coupled a Senate vote giving the District of Columbia a vote in the House with a
provision effectively ending the District's tough gun control laws.